Ep 07 Transcript


Episode 07: The Setting Sun

They say the sun never sets on a Vanderbilt, but no good fortune lasts forever. 

 

Too many heirs with not enough wealth builders lead to the demise of the Vanderbilt dynasty before the Great Depression.  Though some future lesser heirs amass their own fortunes, and one leaves behind a musical legacy that has made all our lives far richer.

 

Archival music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.

 

Publish Date: July 10, 2020

Length: 21:51

Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands

Section 1 Music: Nightfall by Benny Carter & His Orchestra, Album Nightfall – Sophisticated Jazz Classics

Section 2 Music: These Foolish Things by Benny Carter, Album Perfect Blues

Section 3 Music: Nightfall by Benny Carter & His Orchestra, Album Nightfall – Sophisticated Jazz Classics

End Music: These Foolish Things by Benny Carter, Album Perfect Blues

AS THE MONEY BURNS

Podcast by Nicki Woodard

 

Episode 007 – The Setting Sun

 

Series Tag

 

00:00

[Music – My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands]

 

AS THE MONEY BURNS is an original podcast by Nicki Woodard, based on historical research.  This is a deep exploration into the lives of actual heirs and heiresses to some of America’s most famous fortunes and what happens when the Great Depression hits.

 

Each episode is comprised into three primary sections.  Section 1 is a narrative story.  Section 2 goes into the historical facts behind the scenario.  Section 3 focuses on contemporary emotional and personal connections.

 

00:27

Story Recap

 

Before the Wall Street Crash of 1929, teen heiresses Barbara Hutton and Doris Duke strive to join High Society thus must find a way to attend the debutante ball of It Girl Louise Van Alen, who is having a secret love affair with visiting Prince Alexis Mdivani.  Among the adults, Doris’s socially ambitious mother Nanaline struggles to build her own personal fortune and vies to climb the social ladder under the guidance of opera singer Cobina Wright, whose husband rivals Barbara’s father in the stockmarket business. 

 

Now back to AS THE MONEY BURNS

 

Title

 

01:04

The Setting Sun

 

[Music fade out]

 

Episode Tag

 

01:07

They say the sun never sets on a Vanderbilt, but no good fortune lasts forever.

 

Threats to a fortune’s longevity might be nothing more than an overabundance of another sort.

 

01:17

[Music – Nightfall by Benny Carter & His Orchestra, Album Nightfall – Sophisticated Jazz Classics]

 

Section 1 – Story

 

[Music fade out]

 

01:28

Inside one of the most lavish Newport mansions, dowager Alice Vanderbilt (in her early 80s) moves from dark room to dark room.  Even the shadows can’t hide the opulence.  

 

In the style of an Italian Renaissance villa, the cottage merges the best European artistic style with American technology. The gold, the marble, the grand staircase, the large reception hall,…  Ornately painted ceilings, the chandeliers, furniture, artwork, grandeur on an epic scale…  Heated fresh and saltwater baths, with an internal power grid and boiler room on the property but safely away from the main house… The 70 room mansion, over 62,000 square feet of living space, covers one of 14 acres cliffside overlooking the Atlantic Ocean as the waves break against its rocky shores which gives the estate its name – the Breakers. 

 

02:26

Appearing like a relic of the Gilded Age, Alice wears her extravagant jewels, long strings of pearls mixed with large precious stones.   Wistfully, she passes a portrait of her younger self wearing the same necklace.

 

Now a long distant past.

 

Cradling a bulky white handkerchief, Alice informs her butler which rooms will be used this summer and which ones should remain closed off.  He inquires about which events she intends to hold this season and proceeds to estimate the necessary staff requirements. 

 

They stare at each other for a moment.  He pulls from his pocket a large ruby ring and apologizes, “The original did not yield as much as hoped, but its replacement still has excellent craftsmanship.”

 

Alice examines the replica and slips it onto her finger.  She sighs and clutches her handkerchief as she watches the drapes flutter in the morning breeze. 

 

Before he leaves to carry out her orders, she unwraps the white handkerchief revealing a ruby broach inside.  Sadly, he takes the piece and nods. 

 

03:26

In the salon, the dowager sits on a chaise and sorts the invitations brought to her attention into piles of yes, no, and maybe.

 

Barely reading an envelope addressed to The Mrs. Vanderbilt, she realizes it is mistakenly sent to the wrong Mrs. Vanderbilt.  The dowager returns the contents to its envelope.  Another envelope is addressed from Mrs. Vanderbilt to The Mrs. Vanderbilt.  With a soured face, Alice adjusts her spectacles and reviews the invite then compares it to a list of activities and her own guest list.

 

03:58

That afternoon, outside another Newport cottage Wakehurst, talented opera singer and society hostess Cobina Wright preps her young proteges budding fashionista Barbara Hutton and tall awkward Doris Duke on the importance of this day’s activity. 

 

Cobina cautions, “Daisy Van Alen has gathered a small informal group for tea to help plan Louise’s debut.  I was able to convince her it would be nice to include both of you, as you seem to be mingling quite a bit with the younger Van Alen clan.”

 

Cobina reviews Barbara and Doris, who are naturally both excited and anxious.  Cobina turns her attention to include their accompanying guardians the socially ambitious Nanaline Duke and forever in over her head Irene Hutton. 

 

“Acceptance by Daisy carries strong merit.  It requires 2 invitations – one for tea, the second for dinner – to get the real seal of approval as an insider.  Please mind all manners, and be very careful The Mrs. Vanderbilt will be in attendance along with Mrs. Vanderbilt always a precarious matter.  Much to Daisy’s credit and the importance of Louise’s coming out that we are even facing this conundrum.”

 

05:09

All follow behind Cobina as her blonde curly-haired namesake 5 year old daughter skips ahead to greet her little friend dark haired Gloria Vanderbilt, also 5.  The two little ones head off to the nursery for play. 

 

As the butler leads them through Wakehurst, Barbara glances around hoping to catch a glimpse of the dashing Prince Alexis, still recovering from his polo injuries.  She’s sorely disappointed when they are escorted into a room full of ladies only. 

 

The glittering social butterfly Grace Wilson Vanderbilt (nearing 50) flutters about while carefully avoiding her mother-in-law Alice.  The two Mrs. Vanderbilts have a rather long strained relationship. 

 

05:50

Among this capital S Society set are three queen bees – Alice from a bygone era, Grace still waiting for her mother-in-law to relinquish officially, which is so not going to happen, and in the very near future and last of an era Daisy.  Cobina is a supreme hostess, but she is not a queen bee but more a high level lady-in-waiting.  Nanaline needs to elevate into this social set.

 

When Grace suggests a small game of cards at one table, Irene can never resist a game and excitedly joins in.  Nanaline is grateful to finally be separated from her inferior and gladly joins Daisy and Cobina deep into planning details.

 

06:30

Uncomfortably, Louise, Barbara, and Doris share a cup of tea with Alice.  Barbara inquires over the Prince’s health, and Louise demures his recovery is progressing and that the guys are spending the afternoon at Beechwood.

 

Alice watches the young teens interact and tries to ascertain which one will likely become the next queen bee, when she catches sight of Barbara’s own ruby ring.  Barbara immediately realizes the attention and goes to cover it, fearful that her stepmother Irene might flash her own duplicate ring.  Alice follows the eye path and sees that other one too. 

 

Alice smiles, “What a lovely ring, though sapphires would better compliment your eyes.”

 

Immensely fascinated by jewelry, Barbara shifts forward and points to Alice’s replica, “That’s a truly remarkable piece may I get a closer look. I really adore how the facets of an Asscher cut reflects like a waterfall.”

 

07:25

A tiny flash of fear crosses Alice’s eyes that she might be exposed.  What could this young teen possibly know about jewelry.  Alice diverts attention, “You know I have always said a lady must have a good set of pearls.”  She allows Barbara to come closer to inspect her trademark string. 

 

Alice then turns her attention to the painfully shy Doris.  “My dear, what are your interests?”

 

With all attention on her, Doris agonizes then blurts out, “I would like to study botany at the university.”

 

The whole room falls silent.  Every face is blank with confusion, except Nanaline who is mortified.

 

 

 

08:12

[Music – These Foolish Things by Benny Carter, Album Perfect Blues]

 

Section 2 – History & Historiography

 

[Music fade out]

 

08:27

There is more than one way to lose a fortune.  Money is not always renewable, though it does like to recycle itself amongst the elites.  But what makes money disappear?  That’s as important if not more than how to make it – as every aristocratic and royal family throughout history would know.  But what happens when there are too many heirs?

 

It’s so easy to watch and envy the flexing of wealth.  But oh how people try to hide when it’s being lost is even more interesting. 

 

08:54

This whole podcast journey began when I uncovered a gossip column detailing a summer of events in 1929 Newport.  The article stressed the importance of Alice Vanderbilt’s return to the Breakers after several years away.

 

Remember I warned you about too many similar names especially within the same family – hold on it’s about to get really bumpy & confusing.

 

09:16

Today, we might consider the Vanderbilts as established old money.  Commodore Cornelius Vanderbilt was a railroad and shipping tycoon literally paving the way with infrastructure for future American industrial millionaires Rockefeller, Carnegie, Firestone, Ford, JP Morgan, and the other big names.  Duke and Woolworth fortunes would be the next generation.  But these were all new money during America’s Gilded Age, 1870s-1900. 

 

In America, old money consisted of families dating back to the Mayflower until another relative newcomer broke in – America’s first self-made millionaire and fur trader John Jacob Astor.  By the 1880s, his family ran society especially under Caroline Astor, the grandmother of our two primary heirs Louise Van Alen and Jakey Astor.

 

10:07

While the men focused on building wealth and dominating industry, the women battled for control over social rank both outside the family as well as in.  There were always two rankings to consider – the one in the social strata of the elite and the other was within the family.

 

During her prime era, Alice Gwynne Vanderbilt found herself squarely in the middle of all that social intrigue.  She outlived and outlasted her rivals only to experience the dawn of a new era with more new rivals rising.

 

10:35

Caroline Astor was the reigning queen of Gilded Age Society.  With her ultra exclusive 400 list, she made sure strict adherence to rank as she so designated mattered. It was also Caroline who made “THE Mrs so-so” as the signifying mark of importance even within a family.  She was however toppled by a Vanderbilt.  Alva Vanderbilt to be exact, sister-in-law to Alice.  Caroline and Alice were descendants of colonial families, and Alva from a fairly well off merchant family that summered in Newport.  All three married into far greater fortunes.

 

11:10

Alice met her husband Cornelius II while both were teaching Sunday school.  She was considered modest and fairly lackluster, but she would prove durable.  They married in 1867 and had 7 children together.  Alice would bide her time climbing the social ranks, but her new sister-in-law Alva married to William in 1875 was not so meek.

 

It was Alva’s bold and bulldogged determination that really put the Vanderbilts into reigning over society.  She challenged and outsmarted Caroline Astor through their daughters.  Alva’s daughter Consuelo was having a much anticipated party, only to exclude a distraught Carrie, thereby forcing her mother Caroline Astor to accept Vanderbilts into her 400. 

 

11:55

Alva would continually challenge Caroline, and Alice would often enter into the game of one upmanship.  If Alva gave away silver party favors, Alice would give gold.  Their Newport cottages – Marble House and Breakers were magnificent pieces.  Though the Breakers so outshone the Marble House, that England’s Duke of Marlborough attempted to break his engagement with Alva’s daughter Consuelo for Alice’s daughter Gertrude.  The temperamental and artistic Gertrude refused, and Alva forced Consuelo into a very unhappy and one of the biggest and most disastrous American dollar princess marriages with European royalty.  They would later divorce.

 

12:36

Alva challenged everyone, including the more rigid and etiquette driven Alice.  Ignoring protocol of internal rank, Alva co-opted the moniker THE Mrs. Vanderbilt, much to Alice’s disapproval.  However when Alva did the unimaginable and divorced her Vanderbilt husband in 1895 – she created a whole new trend and her biggest legacy, divorce and remarriage amongst the elite.  Previously a social death sentence, but Alva was so powerful she kept her Queen Bee status, married the Jewish Oliver Belmont, got a new Newport home, and went on to promote women’s suffrage.

 

Upon the divorce, Alice took over the coveted THE Mrs. Vanderbilt title, meaning the one and only despite being amongst many.  But no sooner was she done with Alva, than a new rival popped up – Grace Wilson who married Alice’s second son Cornelius III also known as Neily in 1896.

 

13:32

Immediately, Alice and Cornelius II were against the match.  Grace had been engaged to their firstborn, now deceased son.  Disreputably Grace’s father made his money through Civil War profiteering, and all her siblings married so well they were known as the Marrying Wilsons or Matchmaking Wilsons.  Her brother married Carrie Astor, and one sister married a Goulet and the other sister the British Ambassador and brother to the Earl of Pembroke.  It has been noted Grace was fully intent on marrying a Vanderbilt no matter what.

 

14:03

Grace and Neily’s engagement was greatly contested by his parents.  Alice considered it to be the cause of Cornelius II’s stroke and early death.  After marrying in haste, Neily was disinherited, but the couple’s story was splashed across the headlines for its romanticism.  The majority of the fortune went to the third son Alfred. 

 

14:23

Alice and her husband Cornelius II had 7 children.  Alice would survive her husband by 35 years, and outlive 4 of their children.  Daughter Alice died in childhood in 1894, William died from typhoid while studying at Yale in 1892, Alfred died on the RMS Lusitania (the British ocean liner sunk by a German uboat during World War I) in 1915, and Reginald from cirrhosis of the liver in 1925 (he was Gloria Vanderbilt’s father).  By 1929, Alice’s three surviving children were son Neily and her two daughters famous artist Gertrude Whitney and Countess Gladys Szechenyi. 

 

15:04

The problem with the Vanderbilt fortune is that after Cornelius II – the Commodore’s grandson, no one accumulated the fortune like the first 3 generations. Instead there were far too many heirs spending far too lavishly.  The Commodore had attempted to follow the Astor path of leaving a very large sum to one son, a smaller portion to the remaining males, and a pittance to the females.  His son Billy doubled the fortune to $200 million then split the bulk of it between his two oldest sons, both of whom married Alice and Alva.  Another son Frederick managed to invest his small inheritance wisely but was widowed with no children thus left his fortune to his niece by marriage Daisy Van Alen.

 

15:45

Alice’s mere $7 million was lavish for 1899, but living for 35 more years definitely dwindled the remains.  By 1929, Alice’s long absence from Newport was actually an effort to cut costs.  She was hiding the fact that she could no longer continuously entertain.  She would often keep large sections of her New York West 57th Avenue mansion and the Breakers closed reducing both energy and staff needs. She would alternate between the two residences, never staying in both in the same year.

 

16:18

After the death of his remaining brothers, Neily reconciled with his mother Alice by 1926, almost 27 years later, and regained the sizeable fortune though somewhat diminished from $70 million now closer to $20 or 30 million.  He was a man of simple tastes more interested in inventing things and yachting.  His wife Grace however was quite a spendthrift.

 

Alice then had to continually contend with Grace’s overly presumptuous and enthusiastic bids to become THE Mrs. Vanderbilt (Grace even had the letterhead stashed in waiting). Grace did throw tremendous parties and reveled more in the social life than Alice ever did, but yielded the title to the dowager until her death in 1934.

 

16:59

When Alice did pass away, she left the Breakers to her youngest daughter Gladys, whose descendants occupied parts of the residence until 2018.  The New York West 57th Ave mansion eventually became the location of Bergdorf Goodman.

 

Vanderbilt properties included – in Newport the Breakers, Marble House, Beaulieu, at least two New York mansions on 5th Ave and West 57th Ave, North Carolina’s Biltmore Estate, and New York’s Grand Central.  Among the family endowments, support was given to The YMCA, New York Metropolitan Opera House, Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, Vanderbilt University, and Whitney Payne Museum.

 

The whole Vanderbilt family is a tale of fortune built, lost, inherited, and disinherited to be revisited in its various incarnations as our story permits.

17:52

[Music – Nightfall by Benny Carter & His Orchestra, Album Nightfall – Sophisticated Jazz Classics]

 

Section 3 – Contemporary & Personal Relevance

 

[Music fade out]

 

18:03                                       

In the fictional world of the Gossip Girl tv series, Nate Archibald is a descendant of the Vanderbilts through his mother.  Season 3 storylines followed some of the complications of living up to the family’s expectations. 

 

The real life Vanderbilts are a far more complicated tale.

 

18:18

In 1973, 120 out of then 787 known descendants of the Commodore gathered for a family reunion at Vanderbilt University.  Not a single family member present was worth a million dollars.

 

Now of course, there are a few who have done quite well.  Alice’s granddaughter Gloria Vanderbilt went on to mass a $200 million dollar due to her fashion empire, and her silverfox son news anchor Anderson Cooper’s estimated worth is between $100-200 million, though that did not come from an inheritance or trust.  His mother warned there would be no money but might have left a small amount in the end.

 

19:00

Another successful descendant from Alice through her son Alfred (who died on the RMS Lusitania) is James Platten Vanderbilt, screenwriter, director, and producer. Writer of Darkness Falls, Zodiac, 2012 The Amazing Spider-Man (2012), upcoming 2021 Scream 5, among many other titles.  He is also an executive producer on the Netflix series Altered Carbon.

 

19:25

The youngest of the most well-known Vanderbilt descendants is polo player and son of current 12th Duke of Marlborough – George Spencer-Churchill.  A descendant of Alva and Consuelo Vanderbilt and a distant relative to Winston Churchill and 4th cousin once removed from Lady Diana Spencer, the Princess of Wales.  That family line too suffered a disinheritance scandal in 1993.

 

19:47

Another Vanderbilt descendant actor Timothy Olyphant has made his own fortune starring in Deadwood, Justified, and The Santa Clarita Diet.  He descends from William Billy Vanderbilt through his daughter Emily, sister of Cornelius II.

 

20:02

Also via Emily’s line, Timothy’s great uncle John Hammond was a record producer, civil rights activist, and music critic from the 1930s-1980s.  A well-educated jazz fan who did not racially discriminate when choosing musicians to air on the radio, Hammond’s illustrious career included working with musicians Benny Goodman, Count Basie, Teddy Wilson, Billie Holiday, Aretha Franklin, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, and Stevie Ray Vaughn to only name a few.  He was also instrumental in the revival of the Delta Blues artist Robert Johnson.

 

One final note Hammond got his musical start while working with Benny Carter, whose two songs Nightfall and These Foolish Things are often used as musical cues in this podcast. 

 

20:50

[Music – These Foolish Things by Benny Carter, Album Perfect Blues]

 

You can locate both full versions of these songs and a few others in the wonderful digitally remastered collection at PastPerfect.com along with other music from the era.

 

Please enjoy more of Benny Carter’s These Foolish Things

 

 

Hook

 

21:07

Next when we return to AS THE MONEY BURNS…

 

The price of fortune is often a broken heart.  When the darkness falls, no amount of gold will brighten the path of one sinking in love’s despair.

 

Until then…

 

 

Credits

 

21:22

AS THE MONEY BURNS is an original podcast written, produced, and voiced by Nicki Woodard, based on historical research.  Archival music has been provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, check out their website at www.pastperfect.com.

 

AS THE MONEY BURNS transcripts can be located at our website asthemoneyburns.com.  We would also love to hear from you at any of our social media accounts AS THE MONEY BURNS – via Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

 

21:50

THE END